tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5826248344207578284.post717375147201450857..comments2024-03-03T11:33:31.376-05:00Comments on Family Sleuther: Family Rumors Beget A Genetic Conundrum Family Sleutherhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11584864778317578299noreply@blogger.comBlogger11125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5826248344207578284.post-73805846341044780542019-05-19T14:13:19.847-04:002019-05-19T14:13:19.847-04:00Ah, ok. So you didn't have Charles' Y dna ...Ah, ok. So you didn't have Charles' Y dna at all, just the autosomal from his granddaughter. Amyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15720293202890878993noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5826248344207578284.post-31967688315160390252019-05-19T13:08:55.901-04:002019-05-19T13:08:55.901-04:00I'm making that leap, too!
It was Sam's Y...I'm making that leap, too!<br /><br />It was Sam's Y-DNA that I was able to get that proved a definitive match to my line. Sam's close autosomal DNA matches were not matches to Charles' granddaughter. Family Sleutherhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11584864778317578299noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5826248344207578284.post-24256037192535196862019-05-19T12:50:50.985-04:002019-05-19T12:50:50.985-04:00Shucks - a missed opportunity! The creating the gr...Shucks - a missed opportunity! The creating the graphics turned into a bit of a time-suck, otherwise I would have published earlier. :) I hope you enjoyed the seminar, Linda.Family Sleutherhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11584864778317578299noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5826248344207578284.post-83507203094059268272019-05-19T12:27:44.774-04:002019-05-19T12:27:44.774-04:00I'm not advanced enough in DNA knowledge to fi...I'm not advanced enough in DNA knowledge to figure this out. However, I wish I had seen this post yesterday as I attended an NEHGS one day seminar on DNA. I would have asked one of the experts there for their opinion. Linda Stufflebeanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10652044674485948749noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5826248344207578284.post-6329123950258967482019-05-19T12:23:59.848-04:002019-05-19T12:23:59.848-04:00So often we just have to make that leap of faith s...So often we just have to make that leap of faith since there is no other evidence to support anything conclusively. You convinced me (even though you clearly still have doubts yourself). Just curious how you were able to get Charles' Y-DNA if he is deceased. You didn't mention a son, just the daughter Julia, but I assume there must have been one. I assume the granddaughter is that son's child, right? But you haven't been able to separate out Charles' DNA and Angela's DNA in the granddaughter, right?Amyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15720293202890878993noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5826248344207578284.post-31022175640300711432019-05-19T12:15:29.519-04:002019-05-19T12:15:29.519-04:00I'm with you, Amy! I had to write it all out, ...I'm with you, Amy! I had to write it all out, re-examine the evidence, get everyone's input, and then meditate on it, but I'm definitely think Rumor #1 is the true family history. Family Sleutherhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11584864778317578299noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5826248344207578284.post-38270634691003864652019-05-19T12:12:49.362-04:002019-05-19T12:12:49.362-04:00Fingers crossed! :)Fingers crossed! :)Family Sleutherhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11584864778317578299noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5826248344207578284.post-56472110639961734172019-05-19T12:02:07.171-04:002019-05-19T12:02:07.171-04:00I hope someone reading your post will come up with...I hope someone reading your post will come up with a way to more easily figure this out. Cathy Meder-Dempseyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14430219440977503623noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5826248344207578284.post-82370997045203827482019-05-19T12:00:09.728-04:002019-05-19T12:00:09.728-04:00I am convinced that Angela, not her daughter, was ...I am convinced that Angela, not her daughter, was the mother based on the facts in the birth certificate, especially her age, and the fact that she tried to disguise herself by changing her name and giving her birth surname. If she wanted to protect Julia, why would she do that? The DNA isn't conclusive, but I still think the weight of the evidence supports Rumor Number One.Amyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15720293202890878993noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5826248344207578284.post-19306762075902159372019-05-19T09:46:21.922-04:002019-05-19T09:46:21.922-04:00I should clarify that I used Y-DNA and autosomal D...I should clarify that I used Y-DNA and autosomal DNA to prove that Sam was Frank's father. I didn't use autosomal DNA to determine whether Frank had any of Charles' DNA. That's why rumor #2 was still in play.<br /><br />This morning, I've reviewed the granddaughter's matches for folks matching Charles' surname and came up with a handful of matches.<br /> <br />None of those folks are in common with Frank's three children. Furthermore, I searched for Charles' surname in the matches of Frank's three children and had only one hit for each: Charles' granddaughter. I think this further supports Family Rumor #1 that Angela was the mother.Family Sleutherhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11584864778317578299noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5826248344207578284.post-73688076745778737852019-05-19T08:46:47.498-04:002019-05-19T08:46:47.498-04:00When I read this early this morning the answer was...When I read this early this morning the answer was quite clear. If Charles was not the father of Frank AND Y-DNA showed Sam or one of his brother's was his father, then only rumor #1 is possible. Rumor #2: Julia could not be Frank's mother as she would have passed down Charles' autosomal DNA to Frank which, if I read correctly, was not the case. If you run through the shared matches of Frank's children, do any of them have ancestry in common with Charles?<br />As always, loved your graphics, Michael. Cathy Meder-Dempseyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14430219440977503623noreply@blogger.com